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		<title>By: Clark</title>
		<link>http://kulturblog.com/2010/03/03/lost-sundown/#comment-33848</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 04:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reminds me the night after way too many diet Cokes when I dreamt Jack Bauer crashed on the island while transporting a prisoner for CTU and then the Others &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; find the tables turned.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me the night after way too many diet Cokes when I dreamt Jack Bauer crashed on the island while transporting a prisoner for CTU and then the Others <i>really</i> find the tables turned.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan</title>
		<link>http://kulturblog.com/2010/03/03/lost-sundown/#comment-33847</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ivan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[Oops.  I meant to post this here, not in that other thread]:

So, I had this bizarre dream about Lost that might sorta kinda be a theory/speculation for the LAX universe.

[Leaving out Megatron, Underdog, and Iron Man being on the Island], in my dream Jacob offered the Losties a chance to live in World where the Island never touched them. However, itâ€™s a false construct, and overtime they all begin to realize it was a false reality. They came together in the false reality (in my dream this was much like the scene in BSG where four of the final five came together and realized they were Cylons) and saw it for what it was, and rejected it.

At that point in my dream, Jack used Excalibur to cut the Island in half, so the whole dream wasnâ€™t exactly theory worthy, but that center part was.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Oops.  I meant to post this here, not in that other thread]:</p>
<p>So, I had this bizarre dream about Lost that might sorta kinda be a theory/speculation for the LAX universe.</p>
<p>[Leaving out Megatron, Underdog, and Iron Man being on the Island], in my dream Jacob offered the Losties a chance to live in World where the Island never touched them. However, itâ€™s a false construct, and overtime they all begin to realize it was a false reality. They came together in the false reality (in my dream this was much like the scene in BSG where four of the final five came together and realized they were Cylons) and saw it for what it was, and rejected it.</p>
<p>At that point in my dream, Jack used Excalibur to cut the Island in half, so the whole dream wasnâ€™t exactly theory worthy, but that center part was.</p>
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		<title>By: Clark</title>
		<link>http://kulturblog.com/2010/03/03/lost-sundown/#comment-33846</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know on that.  Forbidden Planet is a pretty lose adaptation.  (As is Lost)  I think the Forbidden Planet version is clearly an influence too.  (i.e. the ID monster and Smokey are pretty much the same)  Of course Forbidden Planet was much more psychological in its way - very Freudian.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know on that.  Forbidden Planet is a pretty lose adaptation.  (As is Lost)  I think the Forbidden Planet version is clearly an influence too.  (i.e. the ID monster and Smokey are pretty much the same)  Of course Forbidden Planet was much more psychological in its way &#8211; very Freudian.</p>
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		<title>By: Mudhead</title>
		<link>http://kulturblog.com/2010/03/03/lost-sundown/#comment-33845</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mudhead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clark:

Intriguing.

But which one is Robby the Robot?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clark:</p>
<p>Intriguing.</p>
<p>But which one is Robby the Robot?</p>
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		<title>By: Clark</title>
		<link>http://kulturblog.com/2010/03/03/lost-sundown/#comment-33844</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Richard and the Others were looking to him as a leader because Smokey set that up.  We just didn&#039;t realize how Smokey was manipulating things at the time.  Although in hindsight it is clear what was going on.

Both Smokey and Jacob are master manipulators who put Ben to shame.

Smokey was human at one time I believe.  

Once again, I suggest people look at Shakespeare&#039;s The Tempest which has long been one of the main influences on Lost.  In Shakespeare Ariel is a spirit who Prospero rescued from a tree.  Prospero controls Ariel by continually promising freedom.  Prospero seeing that his brother is near raises a tempest to cause his brother to crash on the island.  There is an other creature, Caliban, on the island who is the son of the witch that trapped Ariel.  Caliban was originally treated as a son by Prospero but came to view Prospero as an usurper.  Both come to dispise each other.  Caliban, in the play, falls in with some drunkards from the shipwreck to create an ultimately futile rebellion.  

The plot involves manipulations of various sorts, especially by Prospero.  The groups of shipwreck victims are divided into two groups and originally think the others are dead.  

At the end everyone is brought before Prespero who has Ariel send everyone home and then pardons Caliban and frees Ariel as well.  At the end Prospero gives up his magic powers to become a normal human as well and leaves the island too.

It seems to me that Smokey is a combination of Caliban and Ariel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard and the Others were looking to him as a leader because Smokey set that up.  We just didn&#8217;t realize how Smokey was manipulating things at the time.  Although in hindsight it is clear what was going on.</p>
<p>Both Smokey and Jacob are master manipulators who put Ben to shame.</p>
<p>Smokey was human at one time I believe.  </p>
<p>Once again, I suggest people look at Shakespeare&#8217;s The Tempest which has long been one of the main influences on Lost.  In Shakespeare Ariel is a spirit who Prospero rescued from a tree.  Prospero controls Ariel by continually promising freedom.  Prospero seeing that his brother is near raises a tempest to cause his brother to crash on the island.  There is an other creature, Caliban, on the island who is the son of the witch that trapped Ariel.  Caliban was originally treated as a son by Prospero but came to view Prospero as an usurper.  Both come to dispise each other.  Caliban, in the play, falls in with some drunkards from the shipwreck to create an ultimately futile rebellion.  </p>
<p>The plot involves manipulations of various sorts, especially by Prospero.  The groups of shipwreck victims are divided into two groups and originally think the others are dead.  </p>
<p>At the end everyone is brought before Prespero who has Ariel send everyone home and then pardons Caliban and frees Ariel as well.  At the end Prospero gives up his magic powers to become a normal human as well and leaves the island too.</p>
<p>It seems to me that Smokey is a combination of Caliban and Ariel.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
		<link>http://kulturblog.com/2010/03/03/lost-sundown/#comment-33843</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Smokey took Locke&#039;s form because Richard and the Others were already looking to him as a leader, and that meant Smokey could get them to follow him and witness the death of Jacob.  He knew he could manipulate Ben by first scaring him with the apparent return of Locke, then using that confusion to move in for the kill.

I think Ben could kill Jacob because he was human; Sayid could not kill Smokey because he is not.

Dogan could not kill Sayid not for physical reasons, but because spiritually he could not kill a candidate.  Remember Ben&#039;s rules in reference to Widmore having Alex killed?  It&#039;s physically possible, but not kosher if that makes sense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smokey took Locke&#8217;s form because Richard and the Others were already looking to him as a leader, and that meant Smokey could get them to follow him and witness the death of Jacob.  He knew he could manipulate Ben by first scaring him with the apparent return of Locke, then using that confusion to move in for the kill.</p>
<p>I think Ben could kill Jacob because he was human; Sayid could not kill Smokey because he is not.</p>
<p>Dogan could not kill Sayid not for physical reasons, but because spiritually he could not kill a candidate.  Remember Ben&#8217;s rules in reference to Widmore having Alex killed?  It&#8217;s physically possible, but not kosher if that makes sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob J</title>
		<link>http://kulturblog.com/2010/03/03/lost-sundown/#comment-33842</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacob J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 06:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Allison, yea, the question is whether Smoky and Jacob were in a similar condition or not.  Can Jacob shape shift?  Does he sometimes wander the island as a cloud of white smoke?  If not, then I think you&#039;re onto something about why Ben could stab and kill Jacob but Sayid couldn&#039;t kill Smoky.  

I suspect he had to take Locke&#039;s body because Terry O&#039;Quinn is a great actor and the writers didn&#039;t want to lose him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allison, yea, the question is whether Smoky and Jacob were in a similar condition or not.  Can Jacob shape shift?  Does he sometimes wander the island as a cloud of white smoke?  If not, then I think you&#8217;re onto something about why Ben could stab and kill Jacob but Sayid couldn&#8217;t kill Smoky.  </p>
<p>I suspect he had to take Locke&#8217;s body because Terry O&#8217;Quinn is a great actor and the writers didn&#8217;t want to lose him.</p>
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		<title>By: Clark</title>
		<link>http://kulturblog.com/2010/03/03/lost-sundown/#comment-33841</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 03:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not convinced the ghosts are smokey, although I think Christian was smokey.  Remember the kid who appeared to smokey-Locke telling him he couldn&#039;t kill him.  (Who he couldn&#039;t kill wasn&#039;t clear - perhaps Sawyer, more likely someone else)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not convinced the ghosts are smokey, although I think Christian was smokey.  Remember the kid who appeared to smokey-Locke telling him he couldn&#8217;t kill him.  (Who he couldn&#8217;t kill wasn&#8217;t clear &#8211; perhaps Sawyer, more likely someone else)</p>
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		<title>By: Allison</title>
		<link>http://kulturblog.com/2010/03/03/lost-sundown/#comment-33840</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Allison]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 01:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Speaking of, I&#039;d like to someday get some sort of explanation about why Locke&#039;s body was necessary for Smoky.  I get that it was useful in conning Ben into killing Jacob, but only because Smoky-in-the-form-of-Danielle had already told Ben to do whatever Locke told him.  Why not permanently use the form of Danielle, or Christian, or whoever?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of, I&#8217;d like to someday get some sort of explanation about why Locke&#8217;s body was necessary for Smoky.  I get that it was useful in conning Ben into killing Jacob, but only because Smoky-in-the-form-of-Danielle had already told Ben to do whatever Locke told him.  Why not permanently use the form of Danielle, or Christian, or whoever?</p>
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		<title>By: Allison</title>
		<link>http://kulturblog.com/2010/03/03/lost-sundown/#comment-33839</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Allison]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 01:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jacob J, okay, then, Smoky took the *appearance* of Locke&#039;s dead body.  Still seems plausible it&#039;s harder to kill whatever-you&#039;d-call-that (Locke&#039;s form?) than a guy with an actual body.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacob J, okay, then, Smoky took the *appearance* of Locke&#8217;s dead body.  Still seems plausible it&#8217;s harder to kill whatever-you&#8217;d-call-that (Locke&#8217;s form?) than a guy with an actual body.</p>
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