LOST: Eggtown

Another Kate episode. Let’s dive in. Spoilers and details from tonight’s episode after the break.

Links and miscellanea

  • This week’s official podcast feauted a welcome return of Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof. Some tidbits from Cuse and Lindelof:

    • Kate really is one of the Oceanic Six. There could be a trick involved with the remaining two of the six.
    • Faraday’s experiment means that there was, in fact, a time shift that occurred during the rocket’s journey. This is important.
    • We’ll be seeing Libby again soon this season.
    • Possible explanation for a DHARMA polar bear turning up in the desert in Tunisia: there are properties of the island capable of “transporting” items from the island off the island. (See the Orchid Station training video.)
    • The cow that Lapidus saw in “Confirmed Dead” was, in fact, the cow from the Flame Station. (Congrats to all the commenters who picked that up.)
    • Charlotte’s name is confirmed as a reference (or “homage”) to C.S. Lewis. There are relevant themes from “The Chronicles of Narnia” in LOST. Cue theories that the LOST island is an alternate reality, much like Narnia.

  • LOST seems to have been unfairly ignored for the last two Emmys, but it did get seven Saturn (Academy of Science Fiction Fantasy and Horror Films) nominations.

  • Beginning April 24, LOST will move to a 10:00 EST start time. (Bummer. I prefer the earlier start time. Makes it so I don’t have to stay up as late blogging.)

  • Someone has figured out that some of the technology on LOST is fictional. No kidding.

  • Doc Jensen at EW.com has a good interview with Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof (with some spoilerish stuff in it). The most interesting parts are where Cuse and Lindelof lay out their rules for time travel and alternate realities. For example, all flashbacks and flashforwards within an episode occur in chronological order. Also, the creators of LOST are not writing the show with several possible futures—only one. All theorizing should start with those statements as a foundation. Other interesting nuggets: Naomi’s bracelet is not connected—except emotionally for Sayid—to the bracelet work by Elsa; “The Economist” was written before the Red Sox’s second World Series victory of this millenium, so Lapidus wasn’t referring to very recent events; we will find out who was in the coffin during this season; the “Find 815″ RPG is not canon.

Observations and speculations

  • The contents of Ben’s fridge: a can of DHARMA Initiative spiced pork, three whole sweet potatoes, a bowl of eggs, two melons.

  • Locke brings Ben the Philip K. Dick novel Valis to read. Valis, according to Amazon, is the first in a trilogy. “Known as science fiction only for lack of a better category, “Valis” takes place in our world and may even be semi-autobiographical. It is a fool’s search for God, who turns out to be a virus, a joke, and a mental hologram transmitted from an orbiting satellite. The proponent of the novel, Horselover Fat, is thrust into a theological quest when he receives communion in a burst of pink laser light. From the cancer ward of a bay area hospital to the ranch of a fraudulent charismatic religious figure who turns out to have a direct com link with God, Dick leads us down the twisted paths of Gnostic belief, mixed with his own bizarre and compelling philosophy. Truly an eye opening look at the nature of consciousness and divinity.” There are some interesting parallels there for both Locke and Ben.

  • The domestic arguments between Kate and Sawyer seemed kind of mundane. I suppose they were meant as a decoy to convince us that Kate’s son in her flashbacks was Sawyer’s child.

  • Arthur Galzathron is quite a name for a judge. If “Galzethron” is a reference to anything, I don’t know what it could be. A Google search only turned up speculation based on a LOST casting call for the character.

  • Somehow, the island mixed Sun and Jin up, and now Jin wants to return to Korea and Jin wants to move to America. Maybe he’s not too excited about seeing Father Pak again. Meanwhile, Sun doesn’t seem too confident that her baby is Jin’s.

  • Locke is pretty confused about how he’s supposed to lead his faction. He’s taking an authoritarian approach, but he doesn’t know what to do or how to control people.

  • Best Hurley line: “You just totally Scooby Doo’ed me, didn’t you?”

  • Jack’s story from the witness stand, which Kate later says she’s heard so many times that she almost thinks he believes it, is kind of interesting. The relevant details: eight people survived the crash (the Oceanic Six plus two), the plane crashed out to sea, Jack was hurt pretty badly, Kate administered first aid and found food and shelter. This is probably a story that was fed to Jack and Kate (and Hurley and Sayid and the other two) when they cut their deal to get off the island. I wonder, according to this narrative, who the other two crash survivors were and what happened to them. Before Kate stops him, Jack says, “She tried to save the other two, but they didn’t—”

  • Something odd about the trial: how is Kate being tried in a California state court for crimes that were committed all over the country? A federal court I could almost see, but I’m not buying that California has jurisdiction over the arson and murder she committed in Iowa, for example. I’m guessing this was simply an oversight by the writers.

  • The choice of video movies in Hurley and Sawyer’s place is hilarious: Xanadu or Satan’s Doom—Heaven or Hell. Xanadu, of course, is the disco-era musical featuring Olivia Newton-John as a fantasy girl who can make your dreams come true. It’s one of those so-bad-its-good movies. IMDb doesn’t match anything with Satan’s Doom, so I’m going to say it doesn’t exist unless someone can convince me otherwise. There is a Doom Metal band by that name, though (of course). The book that Sawyer is reading appears to be The Invention of the Morel. Amazon: “Set on a mysterious island, Bioy’s novella is a story of suspense and exploration, as well as a wonderfully unlikely romance, in which every detail is at once crystal clear and deeply mysterious.” Yeah, that sounds about right.

  • I’m no oenophile, but I wonder if DHARMA Initiative Red Wine has good and better vintages.

  • The last time we saw that backgammon set, I think, was when Locke was playing it on the beach with Walt. Sawyer’s con works pretty well on Locke. But then, he’s got a history of being conned.

  • I really like Miles. He’s greedy and unscrupulous, but he’s very entertaining. $3.2 million is an odd figure to settle on, but he doesn’t bother negotiating about the price. It’s pretty close to the figure that I’ve come up with in discussions with friends about the topic, “How much money would be enough to live comfortably for the rest of your life without working?” The idea is that you could have enough money to pay off all your debts, invest the remainder in a low-risk tax-free vehicle (say, municipal bonds) and support a leisurely lifestyle on the interest.

  • Miles confirms that the freighter people knew about flight 815 at least before the helicopter arrived. Whether they knew of the possibility that these people were still alive prior to that time is still an open issue. The flashbacks from “Confirmed Dead” (if they were, in fact, flashbacks) suggest that they probably did.

  • I wonder if Kate not wanting to let her mother see her child was actually because she didn’t want to deceive her dying mom about Aaron. If so, that’s kind of heroic, in a twisted way.

  • Dan Faraday appears to suffer from some kind of short-term memory loss. Incidentally, the woman who appeared to be his spouse or girlfriend from “Confirmed Dead” was revealed to be his caregiver. Something’s not write with Dan mentally.

  • I’m not going to begin to speculate about what happened to the helicopter and Frank, Sayid and Desmond. Besides, it looks like we’ll find out next week. It looks like there’s one phone number that goes to Minkowski and a different, “emergency” number that goes to Regina. I wonder why.

  • The grenade trick Locke pulled with Miles was brutal and seems kind of short-sighted. Locke seems to be becoming unhinged. This sadistic streak is an unwelcome development. Locke says he is “responsible for the well being of this island.” He takes his responsibility pretty seriously, but there’s some truth to what Jack and Ben are saying: he doesn’t seem to know what he’s doing.

  • So now we know how Kate managed to get out of her legal troubles. Ten years probation seems pretty light considering all the charges against her. Kate apparently cannot leave California, despite the Oceanic superpass. As of now, we have no reason to believe that she wants to go anywhere. I’ve got a hunch, though, that says she ends up going back to the island with Jack at some point.

  • My theory on why Jack doesn’t want to go see Aaron: he has survivor’s guilt about what happened to Claire. Claire obviously didn’t make it, otherwise Aaron wouldn’t be with Kate. Jack has always felt responsible for everyone. This fits with his character and with his future torment about returning to the island and helping those who didn’t make it off.

  • I don’t think Aaron is counted as one of the Oceanic Six. Aaron would not have been on the flight manifest and wasn’t technically a passenger. Kate would represent him as being her child, born on the island. (The time difference between island time and off-island time might help her to conceal the fact that she didn’t have time to carry a baby to term and raise it as an infant before she was rescued.) In the flashforward, Aaron looks at least two-years old.

This episode was pretty good, but probably my least favorite so far this season. The action on the island is moving along nicely, but Kate’s flashforward felt kind of expository and a bit slow. (In that way, it reminded me of “What Kate Did” from season 2. It answered some questions, but wasn’t that exciting.) This season’s been top-notch, though, so I’m not really complaining. I don’t really know if it was a spoiler leak or just some highly accurate speculation, but I’d been hearing for a long time (since before the season started, even) the rumor that Aaron was the masculine pronoun that Kate told Jack she had to get back to in last year’s season finale. It was about as surprising to me as finding out that Locke’s father was the real Sawyer. (No, really?) So that drained some of the impact out of the episode for me.

So what does “Eggtown” mean, anyway? We had the eggs in Ben’s fridge, discussions of possible pregnancy and Kate acting maternal. Lostpedia has this: “Egg-town is a pejorative term that refers to the days of bartering, during the Great Depression. A traveling salesman would have to barter his candy or tobacco or shoelaces for different commodities. A poor exchange would be for eggs, a relatively common item that is also highly perishable. Nobody wants to trade for eggs from a traveling salesman because they have their own, so the salesman who accepted an egg in exchange was forced to accept a bad deal. Salesmen would use the term like ‘If I were you I would stay away from Bogart. That’s an egg-town.’ Of course, the lack of trust among salesman was also high, and it was likely that one salesman would lie to another about the quality of a town’s customers to keep them for himself. Invariably, the second salesman ventures into to Bogart only to find it is truly an egg-town. He is either persuaded to not visit a town that has good customers or is tricked into visiting a town that can only offer eggs. The term ‘egg-town’ represents a deal with undesirable outcomes in either case.” Interesting. In this case, “eggtown” could refer to Kate’s plea agreement, Miles’ extortion pact with Ben, or the Oceanic Six’s deal they made with the powers-that-be to get off the island.

Posted on February 22, 2008, in Television and tagged . Bookmark the permalink. 49 Comments.

  1. I think you’re right, Greg. Claire appears to be a goner, for sure. Jack doesn’t want to see the baby because he feels guilty for the way she died.

    I also thought it was weird that the trial was in an L.A. courtroom.

    Good shows like Lost and BSG should leave the courtrooms for other inferior shows.

    When the prosecutor asked, “Do you love her?” I just about gagged.

  2. I like Miles going “actually, it’s extortion.” with a little head wag. He’s pretty refreshingly undramatic and funny. Total contrast to the fertility doctor lady (forgetting her name).

    Pretty heavy literary references this time around. Phillip K Dick, that’s kinda predictable for Lost, the Morel book looks interesting, though. So many books on islands – RObinson Crusoe, Foe (J.M. Coetzee) interesting that they choose other ones.

    It’s sad to see Locke lose it, but then again it makes him more of a round character to go back to losing faith, or at least tempting to lose direction. THat makes his returns so much more impressive, I think.

    Dan Faraday character- that is cool that he has a short term memory loss. Still wondering why he had the OED next to him back at his house. But it makes sense that his response to the footage of the crash was confusion as to why he was upset- if he has short term memory loss, he may just not remember the recent events.

    I saw the Aaron thing coming, because she kept referring to him as “the baby” in an awkward way, not really done too well by the writers, but in general a good episode. Sad to see the mom die, but her character has been so flat last two seasons it’s been obvious in a way.

    OK: why did it take Kate so long to take a shower? She was running around with dirt on her face for days.

    I thought the Sawyer-Kate conversation was sweet, and built suspense as to whether they did conceive on the island. I hadn’t really been paying attention to whether she was pregnant, and so it was interesting to hear them talk about it. I did notice this time around that you can tel when Sawyer is doing a con, he gets very predictable emotions and repsonses. WEll acted, I think, it’s subtle but detectable.

  3. I’m glad to see that others are seeing Locke as unhinged. He really is losing it.

    This episode is, to this point, the weakest of a superb fourth season.

    I’m trying to figure out which future events happen in which sequence. Obviously bearded Jack is the furthest one out (though Sayid, the Spy could be further out).

  4. The Kate episodes are always among the weakest, and this one was no exception. I didn’t really see the Aaron thing coming (it was obvious she was going to say the baby’s name at the very end of the episode and the name would be some sort of shock), but was it the punch in the gut it was clearly supposed to be? Not remotely.

    Give me more sadistic, flying-off-the-rails Locke and keep the courtroom drama love-triangle crap on General Hospital where it belongs (I agree with whoever gagged at the “Do you love her?” question during the trial).

  5. Dan, of course Locke’s unstable and credulous. It’s part of why he’s such a great character.

    I don’t think it was a bad episode, really (I loved, LOVED, the scene with Miles and Ben), but the flashforwards were more necessary than fun. They needed to address why Kate’s roaming free despite being a known killer, and they did.

  6. Miles is a great character.

    The writing suffered a little in this episode. The usual great back-and-forth between Locke and Ben seemed lacking this time around.

    By the way, I think it’s premature to say Claire is going to die. I think that’s what the show wants you to believe–like Kate’s baby being Sawyer’s. I think it’s more likely Claire was left behind. How Aaron ended up with Kate is the question.

  7. Okay, this is what I thought about since last night. Now if all Miles wanted was money, and he is the all knowing psychic that we have witnessed him to be, why is he not trying to get it from Hurley? They should all know that Hurley won a zillion dollars in the lotto. From everyone that Naomi’s boss could have visited, why did he visit Hurley in the mental hospital? Why didin’t he go to Jack and ask Jack “are they still alive”? Hurley is not the most stable and reliable. Also we all know that Hurley has been know to create people in his mind that really do not exist. Do you see where I am going with this? If this turns out to be a big halluscination created by Hurley mental illness, I am going to be pissed!!!

    I think that there is a weird connection between Ben and Hurley. Hurley seems insignificant, but I bet he is more of a key player than we think.

  8. I had to look up the meaning of the scorpion in Chinese culture since they are using the scorpion with the Bagua as the Dharma symbol, which is a symbol of Balance (yin-yang).

    A summary of symbol meaning/associations for the Scorpion are as follows:

    Transition
    Death/Dying
    Sex
    Control
    Solitary/Being Alone
    Treachery
    Passion
    Protection
    Defensiveness

    Don’t know if it means anything, but is might. Certainly goes with the story.

  9. My guess on the $3.2 million figure is that Miles has read a dossier on Ben and knows that Ben has at least that much in a real world account. Miles is great.

    That trial was truly bizarre. Why was Kate’s lawyer calling Jack in the middle of the prosecution’s case-in-chief to offer testimony that was not particularly relevant and highly prejudicial?

  10. ahhh, the trial scenes. We all know if they showed us exactly how it went down in the real world, no one would tune in.

    It could have been a federal court (tho they referred to the prosecutor as a DA, and not an AUSA) due to the international nature of her crimes, and she killed a federal agent so they’d want first crack at her (tho she didn’t seem to be on trial for that). Now in what federal jurisdiction they would try her, I don’t know exactly. You’d think 8th Circuit since her crime spree started in Iowa, but then again she committed crimes all over the country and world, so she probably could’ve been tried anywhere. But what about state courts? If she got off w/a plea in federal court, you’d think Iowa would take a crack at her for murder. Or the states where she committed all those bank robberies might want to try her. No double jeopardy as it’s separate sovereigns. Oh well. To keep it legally realistic would not be a very interesting plot device…

  11. To keep it legally realistic would not be a very interesting plot device…

    And would totally distract from the more important storyline.

  12. Exactly. I will turn off my anal legal skilz. If I am willing to suspend disbelief on so many issues with Lost, why not in the courtroom?

    On to the plot devices:

    this short-term memory can’t just be a throwaway. It has to be referenced later…

    So, we all agree that next week’s episode is about Desmond and time travel?

  13. Wait, you mean this show isn’t realistic? That’s it, I’m done.

  14. Well, I guess I’m the only one that was fooled. The way the episode played out I assumed Kate was pregnant with Sawyer’s child and lying to him about it. That would explain why she wanted to get off the island in spite of the charges she would face. It was either prison time or certain death, what with the pregnant mothers that conceived on the island dying every time.

    I’m still reeling over the Aaron revelation. If Aaron is with Kate then Claire is either dead or Aaron was kidnapped from her. Either scenario ticks me off. Probably because I’m a mom. The thought of Claire’s torture over her kidnapped son kills me. The thought that Aaron called Kate mommy and that he may never know she isn’t really his mom, kills me.
    I MUST know what in the heck happened for things to be that way!

    I can’t wait for next weeks episode. Desomond is my favorite character! If he doesn’t get a happy homecoming with Penny by the end of this series I’ll be royally ticked off.

  15. My wife was pissed at Kate, at Lost, too after the big Aaron reveal…

    yeah, the “hi mommy” gave me chills.

  16. When Kate was walking up the stairs, I blurted out “OHMYGOSH! THE BABY IS ARON!” I’ve never been able to figure out anything beforehand on this show, so I was pretty siked about my outburst when it proved to be true. I’m with Summer. I was sick, sick, sick wondering what would have happened so that Kate has Aron. I’m hoping it didn’t involve a kidnapping… but wouldn’t that prove interesting about her character after all?!!

  17. Why would Kate kidnap Aaron? She wasn’t interested in even picking him up. I think it’s way more likely that something happened to Claire and she ended up with Aaron as a result.

  18. Summer, there is one other possibility. It could be that for some reason, Claire found out that she was not being allowed to leave the island and that she begged Kate to take Aaron with her and raise him as her own.

  19. That’s along the lines of what I was thinking.

  20. #18 Me too.

  21. I have that exact same edition of Valis.

  22. A few comments.

    First, I think the bickering between Kate and Sawyer is important. Sawyer is clearly in love with Kate and wants her to stay with him. The ‘duh’ is that Kate is in love with Jack, despite Jack’s unknown relationship with the Other girl. (Forget her name and am too lazy to hit imdb) So I didn’t mind those. It relates a lot to Sawyer’s backstory.

    Second, was I the only one expecting Kate’s husband the policeman to show up at the trial? I still think that’s the guy she was talking about at the end of last season.

    Third, Sun’s not seeming to recognize the huge problem of going back to Korea (her Dad) really bugged me. But it was nice to see Jin again. He needs more screen time.

    Locke is getting annoying although it fits with his character. I did like the hand grenade bit.

    Dan Faraday will turn out to have been in the same asylum with Hurley and Libby. Mark my words.

    I think there is more to the Claire – Jack relationship than meets the eye.

    Brian, the court sequence in last year’s BSG was one of the few good episodes that season. I agree with everyone about the weirdness of California vs. Ohio for the trial though.

  23. “I think there is more to the Claire – Jack relationship than meets the eye.”

    You mean, besides the fact that they are half siblings?

    I hadn’t thought about it until now (or at least not recently) but that makes Aaron Jack’s nephew.

  24. Keep in mind whatever happens to Claire it needs to be something sufficiently bad to make Jack not want to see Aaron—something really guilt-inducing.

    I think Claire just having to stay on the island isn’t strong enough, in my opinion.

  25. Clark,

    I respectfully disagree. All that stuff about Adama giving Apollo his grandfather’s law books, encouraging him to be a lawyer, then getting pissy when he does just that. Plus, all the courtroom high-jinks of surprise witnesses.

    I thought I was watching Perry Mason in space. It should have at least been Judgment at Nuremberg in space.

  26. Apparently Jack doesn’t know Claire is his sister though.

    Brian, we’ll have to agree to disagree. Compared to most else (such as the Apollo/Starbuck romantic subplot) the lawyer bit was interesting. Partially because you have a character we know is bad (Baltar) but who is defended. Then there’s all this interesting bit of the corners Adama and everyone else was cutting to survive. Was Baltar much worse? I’ve long thought that BSG was at its best when dealing with these thorny problems that don’t have the clear answers we like to presume. Last fall’s Razor was great in that regard.

    The combination of ethical dilemmas and human frailty makes the show quite bad. It’s just when it is forced that it becomes problematic.

    BTW – the reason for the introduction of Adama’s dad into that was primarily to enable the Caprica spin-off which is all about the Dad. Initially Sci-Fi decided not to go with Caprica although there were rumors during the strike that they had reconsidered. (Moore denied those rumors)

  27. BTW – didn’t Sayid say he was one of the Oceanic 8 last week? I can’t remember. I was going to suggest that he left the island with Ben and wasn’t one of the 8. But then my wife said he was.

    I think it ends up being Ben not Dharma or the guy who looks like the mute Haitian who end up getting Jack, Kate and company off the island.

  28. Clark,

    Indeed Sayid did say he was one of the Oceanic Six, not eight.

    that’s an interesting theory that you have that Ben is the one taking them off the island. How would he do that and retain his anonymity?

  29. The trial’s location was just based on simplicity. Trail scenes are generally boring enough, no sense in having a lot of exposition as to why she is being tried where.

    I thought the same thing about the judge. That name has to mean something.

    I can’t agree that this was the worst of the season. I still think the first episode easily takes that award, but it’s a pointless debate.

    So much stuff happens on this show that makes it hard to remember everything. Do we know who the father of Claire’s baby is?

    The revelation of Aaron being Kate’s baby was not a shock. Somebody spoiled it in last week’s comments (thanks.) Hard to know if I would have picked up on it had I not known beforehand, but having prior knowledge made it quite obvious with the way the characters were speaking.

    I am inclined to agree with a few of you, I think the writers want us to think the worst about the Kate-Claire-Aaron situation. I think in the end she will still be alive on the island. That would still make Jack feel some serious guilt. To be spending time with Aaron, lying to him, when he knows Claire is still alive and stranded. I also don’t think Aaron is one of the 6, which is good.

  30. Wasn’t the Father of Claire’s baby her jerk-boyfriend from her first flashback?

    Once again while Claire is one of my least favorite characters I really hope they explain her inexplicable behavior.

  31. The combination of ethical dilemmas and human frailty makes the show quite bad.

    Whoops. That should have said good not bad. It’s bad when it’s too forced. (Like the half hearted quasi-marxist subplot about workers rights and classism) Some things feel natural. Others don’t. Last season overall was a big disappointment though.

    Was there a spoiler last week about Aaron. It must have gone over my head. I’m still curious as to why Kate cared if the boat folks knew she was a criminal. I mean, why wouldn’t she assume everyone knew?

  32. Re: the spoiler last week, someone posted “word on the street is that Kate is raising Aaron’s baby on the outside”- so yeah, luckily I didn’t check back here and read comments before the episode aired! I had guessed that Aaron made it out, but that was just an uninformed prediction.

    One thing that bugs me about Kate’s episodes is that they are essentially going to suck in many ways since she can’t talk about her feelings. Almost all of the issues she has is that she can’t talk. Can’t talk to mother about her motivations for killing the stepfather, can’t talk to Sawyer about her feelings for him, can’t talk to Jack about same, etc. so it is just super frustrating as a viewer, and not tension in a good way, but tension like, poor actress, she really has a f-ed up character. The “hot, skilled tomboy” leading-lady is interesting, but in this regard it’s just frustrating.Also- yet another flashforward where we realize she is just not pretty in make-up.

  33. I’m more interested in the time-related implications of Kate being Aaron’s “mother”. After all, the world knows that Kate wasn’t THAT pregnant when she boarded the plane. The only way they would believe that Aaron is Kate’s is if either 1) time on the island has been very different from that off the island or 2) Kate’s doesn’t get off the island for a long time to come still.

    I personally think (1) is probably true and also explains the taller Walt which Locke sees as well as why the helicopter has not reached the freighter yet. I don’t necessarily think that time on the island is funky per se, but I do think that time is funky while one is traveling to and from the island.

  34. Jeff, how would the world know she wasn’t pregnant?

  35. Claire, the real mother, was REALLY pregnant on the flight. Kate wasn’t. Nobody would ever believe that the 4 month old child was Kate’s, assuming they are rescued with the next month or so.

  36. Except that time hasn’t progress at the same rate on the island as off, has it?

  37. That was kind of my point. I’m still not convinced that time on the island is different. I think that most of the issues regarding time differences can be account for by suggesting that time is only different when traveling to or from the island.

    I listed Aaron, Walt, the Helicopter and one could mention the rocket as well. These are all things which are leaving or coming to the island. Then again, it might be that the only way to compare time on and off the island is by something traveling between the two.

    I just worries that some kind of standard difference is time between on and off the island might not account for the range of phenomena which I would like to see explained. I mean, is the island simply positioned a few minutes in the future? Does time run faster, or slower on the island? Some combination of the two? Might these two variables vary over time as well?

    I have a feeling that the next episode will answer some of these issues. I also have a feeling that these few and rather ambiguous answers will be accompanied by ever more questions. This is Lost after all.

  38. In the “next week on Lost” I freeze-framed the scene of Desmond strangling Ben because for a moment it looked like Desmond strangling a cleaner-cut Desmond, saying “Am I going to die?” That would be neat, confronting your future you, which, I know is a trope of future & time movies, but still, intriguing to me, and I think lost would pull it off way better than back to the future, etc.

    There’s a 32 minute difference between the beacon sent from the boat and it being received on the island. WE don’t know the other way around, the return trip time, though. Walt & Michael left (though no proof of safe arrival), and there was some proof of Patchie leaving, and we’ve seen Eyeliner & the creep-who-abducted-claire, when they’re interviewing Juliet, otherwise, that’s it.

    I think the 3.2 is the money that Ben makes on stock trading- his portfolio- or betting on races, daytrading on his computer in the safe room.

  39. Clark,

    I don’t think anyone else addressed your question why Kate cared if the freighters knew who she was.

    I think she was measuring how widespread her notoriety was as a fugitive in the world.

    Then she could decide if it would have been possible to leave the island and resume the life as a fugitive. Miles told her it would not have been possible.

    BTW, good news. A Lost blog is reporting that Cane was canceled so hopefully Batmanuel (Nestor Campbell) can return and we can learn about the Others at the temple.

  40. How did the world know that Kate wasn’t very pregnant? She was a fugitive in a foreign land and was caught by the one agent. Is it possible that they hopped on a plane and he didn’t report her pregnancy immediately?

    On a side note, I can’t wait until Juliet croaks. Her character is so irritating to me. Thankfully she has a reduced role so far, but it seems like she is just in the scene to throw in a token smirk.

  41. If she was any where near as pregnant as Claire, they would have at least caught it on video at the airport. The old farmer would have said something. The deputy would have reported it. It would have been in her description in the wanted posters. Etc.

  42. Out of curiosity, if Kate really wasn’t planning on staying with Locke’s group, why did she need to get her answers from Miles? Why not ask Dan or Charlotte back with Jack? Was it because he was the most likely to give her a straight answer?

    (Or, because the “deal” advanced the storyline?)

  43. As others said, I think there has to be more for Kate. It just doesn’t make sense what she did let alone how she did it. Unless there are feelings for Sawyer (which is my theory). Wouldn’t it be interesting if, as many thought, she is living with Sawyer in the ‘future.’ i.e. that’s who she has to get back to at the end of last season’s flash forward.

  44. I found it interesting how Jack was perfectly willing to lie to get Kate out of trouble when he considered it beneath himself to do it for his father. Man, I can’t stand him… or Kate for that matter.

  45. Yeah, but the big difference was how he felt about his father, the cause of his father’s problems, and so forth.

    Further the lie was the lie they had all agreed upon presumably to leave the island. It would have been more strange had he not aped it.

  46. VALIS is a fascinating clue about the island. IT stands for Vast Active Living Intelligence System. If you’re interested, I wrote about it on my blog.

  47. Something else I just noticed. Oceanic Airlines is supposed to have temporarily shut down after the crash of 815. It was not reopened until 12-31-07. Now this would mean that the flash forward where Jack is taking advantage of his golden pass was happening 3-4 years after the crash.

    See the link at the bottom of this site.

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