Comments on: Lost: "Par Avion"

By: john f.

john f. — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 11:03:10 +0000

(Of course, if Locke is meant to personify Ayn Rand’s Objectivism, then he would be amoral as regards traditional good/bad distinctions but still not “bad” in any real sense; rather, he would be contributing to the common good in the most effective and powerful way possible [according to Rand] by having no allegiance other than his work / ego and by selfishly pursuing the same.)

By: john f.

john f. — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:58:20 +0000

I haven’t found Locke to be amoral, necessarily. Actually, he has a fundamentally good nature; we just don’t necessarily know his allegiance or agenda.

Claire looks much better with her natural hair color.

I think we cannot trust anything Ben says or has said. He is fundamentally a liar, a manipulator, and a bad dude all around.

By: HP

HP — Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:02:14 +0000

A couple of things:
Remember the notes scribbled in the paper in red ink at the Flame Station, the first one says “My name is also Andrei” and the second one says “I was also in the land of Afghanistan” (I think, the second one is much harder to see). Also, the translation given of Klugh and Bakunin’s words was pretty accurate (in case you were wondering).

Second, I think that Locke wasn’t on the list because they thought he was paralyzed. When they realized he wasn’t, they decided to put him on the list. That said, maybe Ben was screwing with Locke (after all, Ben did lie to him about punching in the numbers; BTW is that the only lie from Ben that we have confirmed?)

I like SG’s theory, BTW.

By: Dan

Dan — Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:41:48 +0000

clark,

no, my religious comment was related to your thought about Rand. I should actually make that comment on your blog, on your post about Rand.

By: clark

clark — Fri, 16 Mar 2007 06:02:11 +0000

To add, not to undercut our super’s genius. Just to ask if perhaps there are some religious issues that can be raised if care is taken to be general and deal only with what is presented in the show. Such as Ecko’s quasi-Catholicism or Hurley’s for that matter.

By: clark

clark — Fri, 16 Mar 2007 05:56:07 +0000

Although one must note that religion is pretty central to Lost. Indeed the first Ecko episode was probably the most religious episode to appear on TV.

Despite the claims of the producers I have a feeling we’re going to end up with the Island and God being related. After all they said there would be no time travel and yet look what the first episode of the second half of the season brought us. So they aren’t above lying.

If nothing else it’s pretty clear that the Others are in a quasi-religious cult of some sort. Presumably tied to all those fake internet sites the producers set up. Only instead of Zetans behind every door we have the mysterious origins of the Island. Or is that the mysterious origins of the forbidden planet with its ability to take peoples fears and dreams and realize them.

Speaking of which, we haven’t had any materializations of peoples dreams yet this season. Remember in season 1 Jack saw his father, Kate saw a horse (ala Twin Peaks), and of course we had the one kid “appearing” as well. Actually I’ll take that back. Hurley saw his faux friend from the asylum. So there’s been at least one fake person. (Well maybe Ecko and his brother as well)

By: Dan

Dan — Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:17:57 +0000

no problem supergenius. totally understand.

By: Supergenius

Supergenius — Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:52:57 +0000

Dan, religion talk is verboten here. I’ve edited your comment accordingly. No offense, just not the purpose of the site.

By: Dan

Dan — Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:49:06 +0000

clark,

[edited]

That said, I do think Hurley is very much of of the key players, probably more key than everybody else except Locke and Jack.

By: clark

clark — Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:41:34 +0000

BTW - even before the easter egg last night I noted a more than passing resemblance between The Others and Ayn Rand's ideal community in Atlas Shrugged. (Yeah, I know, the Fountainhead is a different plot) For the record, I'm not a fan of Ayn Rand) Steve and I were talking about the resemblance between the Island and Forbidden Planet (or Shakespeare's The Tempest which it was based on) Is Hurley Robby the Robot? More importantly is Desmond Prospero? (Recall that Prospero discovers that his brother Antonio was on a ship passing close by the island and raised causing his brother's ship to run aground.) Steve also thinks there's strong influence from Lost in Space. I just don't see it.