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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://kulturblog.com/2005/12/13/how-do-you-decide-what-movies-to-see/#comment-16844</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jennifer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I might be jinxed, but for me, the &quot;theater experience&quot; has become so uniformly unpleasant, that it takes a lightning bolt scar to the forehead to get me inside one.

I think I saw four movies in the theater last year, tops.

Hitchhiker&#039;s, Serenity &amp; GOF (twice - because they cut off the entire end credits the first time)

but netflix is my second husband.  big smoochies to netflix.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might be jinxed, but for me, the &#8220;theater experience&#8221; has become so uniformly unpleasant, that it takes a lightning bolt scar to the forehead to get me inside one.</p>
<p>I think I saw four movies in the theater last year, tops.</p>
<p>Hitchhiker&#8217;s, Serenity &amp; GOF (twice &#8211; because they cut off the entire end credits the first time)</p>
<p>but netflix is my second husband.  big smoochies to netflix.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 19:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I personally like Joe Morgenstern for reviews. I thought I liked Eric Snider but have realized recently that he&#039;s more hit and miss. Did anyone read his review of Syriana? He starts off by explaining how he&#039;s smart because he has a college degree but then admits to being lost through the whole movie only to wrap up the review by giving it a passing grade with some surface excuse of &quot;it&#039;s well shot&quot; when in reality the whole review screams &quot;Everyone else I know who has reviewed this movie thinks it&#039;s good, so I better think so too, to a certain degree.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally like Joe Morgenstern for reviews. I thought I liked Eric Snider but have realized recently that he&#8217;s more hit and miss. Did anyone read his review of Syriana? He starts off by explaining how he&#8217;s smart because he has a college degree but then admits to being lost through the whole movie only to wrap up the review by giving it a passing grade with some surface excuse of &#8220;it&#8217;s well shot&#8221; when in reality the whole review screams &#8220;Everyone else I know who has reviewed this movie thinks it&#8217;s good, so I better think so too, to a certain degree.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: BTD Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BTD Greg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Russell, of course, you&#039;re right; Ebert and Edelstein are both good critics.  Maybe it&#039;s just that their tastes are often much different from my own.  Sometimes I&#039;ll watch a movie and then check the reviews and think, &quot;He liked that movie?  How&#039;s that?&quot;

Two of the critics that I actually enjoy the most are a couple of guys that used to post reviews to the alt.rec.movies Usenet group back in the day: Steve Rhodes and James Berardinelli.  They&#039;re both opinionated, but unlikely to be swayed by Hollywood glitz (like, say, Peter Travers) or drawn offsides by socio-political fixations (Edelstein, &lt;i&gt;Slate&lt;/i&gt;, or, to a lesser extent, The New Yorker).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russell, of course, you&#8217;re right; Ebert and Edelstein are both good critics.  Maybe it&#8217;s just that their tastes are often much different from my own.  Sometimes I&#8217;ll watch a movie and then check the reviews and think, &#8220;He liked that movie?  How&#8217;s that?&#8221;</p>
<p>Two of the critics that I actually enjoy the most are a couple of guys that used to post reviews to the alt.rec.movies Usenet group back in the day: Steve Rhodes and James Berardinelli.  They&#8217;re both opinionated, but unlikely to be swayed by Hollywood glitz (like, say, Peter Travers) or drawn offsides by socio-political fixations (Edelstein, <i>Slate</i>, or, to a lesser extent, The New Yorker).</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Arben Fox</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russell Arben Fox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding Ebert&#039;s and Edelstein&#039;s fixations: you&#039;re right, there are elements of films which grab them and shape their perspective on the film as a whole. But those fixations are &lt;em&gt;reliable&lt;/em&gt;, meaning that, as you figure out how you feel about their particular fixations, you can use them to somewhat accurately forecast how you&#039;ll feel about a movie. And that&#039;s what I want. A critic who is &quot;open-minded&quot; and &quot;takes things whole&quot; might make a much better conversation partner after the movie, but they&#039;re lousy critics. Give me opinionated, sharp, idiosyncratic critics any day of the week.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Ebert&#8217;s and Edelstein&#8217;s fixations: you&#8217;re right, there are elements of films which grab them and shape their perspective on the film as a whole. But those fixations are <em>reliable</em>, meaning that, as you figure out how you feel about their particular fixations, you can use them to somewhat accurately forecast how you&#8217;ll feel about a movie. And that&#8217;s what I want. A critic who is &#8220;open-minded&#8221; and &#8220;takes things whole&#8221; might make a much better conversation partner after the movie, but they&#8217;re lousy critics. Give me opinionated, sharp, idiosyncratic critics any day of the week.</p>
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		<title>By: Pris</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree, Eric, but I&#039;d rather know little about the good movies and a lot about the bad. That way, it&#039;s easier to prepare your mindset.

I saw &lt;em&gt;Domino&lt;/em&gt; a few weeks back. My friend and I both expected it to be horrible--it had been utterly panned by almost every critic (though, notably, Ebert and one of the NYT reviewers gave it relatively decent reviews). But because we knew that it was supposed to be bad, and why, we were prepared--and ended up quite enjoying it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Eric, but I&#8217;d rather know little about the good movies and a lot about the bad. That way, it&#8217;s easier to prepare your mindset.</p>
<p>I saw <em>Domino</em> a few weeks back. My friend and I both expected it to be horrible&#8211;it had been utterly panned by almost every critic (though, notably, Ebert and one of the NYT reviewers gave it relatively decent reviews). But because we knew that it was supposed to be bad, and why, we were prepared&#8211;and ended up quite enjoying it.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Russell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 05:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fun discussion. The issue of how much to know about a film beforehand is an interesting one, and as a movie nerd, I must confess itÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s one that IÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ve struggled with for a long time. My eventual conclusion is that it depends on the movie ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â‚¬Å“ which doesnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t help much. 

I think that for good movies, itÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s good to know as much as possible beforehand. A good movie usually requires at least two viewings to fully appreciate due to complexities of characters and narrative. Reading a lot beforehand allows you to see the movie once, so to speak, so that when you actually do see the movie, it provides some of the benefits of a second viewing without actually having to sit through the movie twice. Then thereÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s also the issue of outright opacity. I would recommend learning as much as possible about characters and storylines of a film such as Syriana, for example, before going into the theater. If I had just had a simple cheat sheet of who was doing what and why, the movie would have been an entirely different experience.  

On the other hand, some movies are best when you know little to nothing about them - for the sheer base pleasure of surprise. There are a lot of movies that have a 10-15 minute setup and then dive into a major plot twist that jumpstarts the rest of the film. Unfortunately, trailers usually have to reveal it to sell the film. But if at all possible, itÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s best to see movies like The Island knowing absolutely nothing at all. I also made it into The Manchurian Candidate without having seen the earlier version, or a trailer, or heard anything in particular about it. I had thought, with Meryl Streep and all, that it was a serious political drama. ThatÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s one of the most serious curveballs IÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ve ever been thrown in a theater. It was awesome.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fun discussion. The issue of how much to know about a film beforehand is an interesting one, and as a movie nerd, I must confess itÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s one that IÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ve struggled with for a long time. My eventual conclusion is that it depends on the movie ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â‚¬Å“ which doesnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t help much. </p>
<p>I think that for good movies, itÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s good to know as much as possible beforehand. A good movie usually requires at least two viewings to fully appreciate due to complexities of characters and narrative. Reading a lot beforehand allows you to see the movie once, so to speak, so that when you actually do see the movie, it provides some of the benefits of a second viewing without actually having to sit through the movie twice. Then thereÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s also the issue of outright opacity. I would recommend learning as much as possible about characters and storylines of a film such as Syriana, for example, before going into the theater. If I had just had a simple cheat sheet of who was doing what and why, the movie would have been an entirely different experience.  </p>
<p>On the other hand, some movies are best when you know little to nothing about them &#8211; for the sheer base pleasure of surprise. There are a lot of movies that have a 10-15 minute setup and then dive into a major plot twist that jumpstarts the rest of the film. Unfortunately, trailers usually have to reveal it to sell the film. But if at all possible, itÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s best to see movies like The Island knowing absolutely nothing at all. I also made it into The Manchurian Candidate without having seen the earlier version, or a trailer, or heard anything in particular about it. I had thought, with Meryl Streep and all, that it was a serious political drama. ThatÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s one of the most serious curveballs IÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ve ever been thrown in a theater. It was awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: D. Fletcher</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[D. Fletcher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 04:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Saw King Kong today.

It&#039;s reasonably entertaining once dinosaurs and Kong enter the movie. The first hour of it is perfectly terrible though, nearly unwatchable. And it&#039;s almost ruined by the music.

Plus, it&#039;s 3 hours long. Too long by 50%.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw King Kong today.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s reasonably entertaining once dinosaurs and Kong enter the movie. The first hour of it is perfectly terrible though, nearly unwatchable. And it&#8217;s almost ruined by the music.</p>
<p>Plus, it&#8217;s 3 hours long. Too long by 50%.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greg, I very much prefer to go into a film without any preconceptions.  If there&#039;s a film that I know I&#039;m interested in seeing I avoid reviews.  Sometimes I avoid even seeing any star ratings, thumbs up/thumbs down, or reading headlines of reviews.  I want my opinion to be mine alone.  If I see something with a bunch of other people&#039;s opinions in my mind I become suspicious of my own reaction to the film, like I can&#039;t trust myself to make an independent judgment.  After I see the film and think about it I read a ton of reviews to see what other people have to say about it.  This sort of takes the place of conversations with friends since my wife isn&#039;t interested and I don&#039;t have many friends that like to talk about films as much as I do.  Poor me.

As for Ebert, I agree with your assessment for the most part.  I don&#039;t read him to decide whether or not I&#039;m going to see a movie, but through him I often become interested in films that otherwise don&#039;t get much press.  Edelstein is worse than Ebert at fixating on unimportant elements, in my opinion.  Often, he seems to be looking for any reason to be offended.  But he&#039;s fun to read and like you say, &lt;em&gt;why&lt;/em&gt; he liked or didn&#039;t like a film is more important than &lt;em&gt;whether&lt;/em&gt; he liked it or not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, I very much prefer to go into a film without any preconceptions.  If there&#8217;s a film that I know I&#8217;m interested in seeing I avoid reviews.  Sometimes I avoid even seeing any star ratings, thumbs up/thumbs down, or reading headlines of reviews.  I want my opinion to be mine alone.  If I see something with a bunch of other people&#8217;s opinions in my mind I become suspicious of my own reaction to the film, like I can&#8217;t trust myself to make an independent judgment.  After I see the film and think about it I read a ton of reviews to see what other people have to say about it.  This sort of takes the place of conversations with friends since my wife isn&#8217;t interested and I don&#8217;t have many friends that like to talk about films as much as I do.  Poor me.</p>
<p>As for Ebert, I agree with your assessment for the most part.  I don&#8217;t read him to decide whether or not I&#8217;m going to see a movie, but through him I often become interested in films that otherwise don&#8217;t get much press.  Edelstein is worse than Ebert at fixating on unimportant elements, in my opinion.  Often, he seems to be looking for any reason to be offended.  But he&#8217;s fun to read and like you say, <em>why</em> he liked or didn&#8217;t like a film is more important than <em>whether</em> he liked it or not.</p>
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		<title>By: BTD Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BTD Greg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m kind of surprised to see so many people say that they like Ebert (and, to a lesser extent Edelstein).  Frankly, I think Ebert&#039;s really not that good of a reviewer, at least in terms of evaluating whether a movie is worth seeing or not.  He&#039;s a good writer, and his reviews are very readable, but I think he tends to fixate on certain things about movies that cloud his judgment about whether a movie is good or not.  

Personally, I tend to skim use Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic to get a good gestalt of what the critics as a whole think.  Caveat: I think Rotten Tomatoes can be pretty darn arbitrary in how they sort a review as &quot;fresh&quot; or &quot;rotten,&quot; so I don&#039;t rely too heavily on it.  I&#039;m more curious about why those who liked a move liked it, and why those who hated it hated it.

And unlike Russell, I&#039;d rather know as little as possible about a movie (other than whether it&#039;s any good) before I see it.  I usually skip over the plot summary portion of reviews entirely, then go back and read them after I&#039;ve seen the movie.

BTW - am I the only one who tends to read more movie reviews *after* I&#039;ve seen a movie than I do before?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m kind of surprised to see so many people say that they like Ebert (and, to a lesser extent Edelstein).  Frankly, I think Ebert&#8217;s really not that good of a reviewer, at least in terms of evaluating whether a movie is worth seeing or not.  He&#8217;s a good writer, and his reviews are very readable, but I think he tends to fixate on certain things about movies that cloud his judgment about whether a movie is good or not.  </p>
<p>Personally, I tend to skim use Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic to get a good gestalt of what the critics as a whole think.  Caveat: I think Rotten Tomatoes can be pretty darn arbitrary in how they sort a review as &#8220;fresh&#8221; or &#8220;rotten,&#8221; so I don&#8217;t rely too heavily on it.  I&#8217;m more curious about why those who liked a move liked it, and why those who hated it hated it.</p>
<p>And unlike Russell, I&#8217;d rather know as little as possible about a movie (other than whether it&#8217;s any good) before I see it.  I usually skip over the plot summary portion of reviews entirely, then go back and read them after I&#8217;ve seen the movie.</p>
<p>BTW &#8211; am I the only one who tends to read more movie reviews *after* I&#8217;ve seen a movie than I do before?</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Arben Fox</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russell Arben Fox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reviews, reviews, reviews, and more reviews. Going out to see a movie on the big screen is a major investment these days, and so I have to be fairly sure that it&#039;s going to entertain us and fit our mood at the moment we&#039;re actually able to go see it. For me, this means reading, well, everything about a film. I think it&#039;s good to read certain reviewers regularly, because knowing what they&#039;ve said about movies that you&#039;ve also seen allows you, over the long term, to be increasing able to predict your own reaction to a movie. (The two reviewers I always read on just about any film are Ebert and Edelstein--it used to Kauffmann too, but he&#039;s just become so cranky in his old age.) But it doesn&#039;t hurt to check out other, off-beat reviewers also. All in all, I rarely see a film that I haven&#039;t read a half-dozen or more reviews of already. There&#039;s a downside to this: I am almost never surprised by a film (because everything gets leaked if you look around enough). But the upside is that we&#039;re rarely disappointed by what we go out to see.

We have favorite directors (not so much actors or actresses), but they don&#039;t influence our choices as much as reviews. Besides, these guys are &lt;em&gt;paid&lt;/em&gt; to see everything out there; they see movies which we all miss. We&#039;ve discovered great films (like Stephen Fry&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0325123/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bright Young Things&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;) solely because of Ebert and Co.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reviews, reviews, reviews, and more reviews. Going out to see a movie on the big screen is a major investment these days, and so I have to be fairly sure that it&#8217;s going to entertain us and fit our mood at the moment we&#8217;re actually able to go see it. For me, this means reading, well, everything about a film. I think it&#8217;s good to read certain reviewers regularly, because knowing what they&#8217;ve said about movies that you&#8217;ve also seen allows you, over the long term, to be increasing able to predict your own reaction to a movie. (The two reviewers I always read on just about any film are Ebert and Edelstein&#8211;it used to Kauffmann too, but he&#8217;s just become so cranky in his old age.) But it doesn&#8217;t hurt to check out other, off-beat reviewers also. All in all, I rarely see a film that I haven&#8217;t read a half-dozen or more reviews of already. There&#8217;s a downside to this: I am almost never surprised by a film (because everything gets leaked if you look around enough). But the upside is that we&#8217;re rarely disappointed by what we go out to see.</p>
<p>We have favorite directors (not so much actors or actresses), but they don&#8217;t influence our choices as much as reviews. Besides, these guys are <em>paid</em> to see everything out there; they see movies which we all miss. We&#8217;ve discovered great films (like Stephen Fry&#8217;s <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0325123/" rel="nofollow"><em>Bright Young Things</em></a>) solely because of Ebert and Co.</p>
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